He arrived at seven in the morning on Saturday 2nd March 1940 with sealed orders which were only to be opened when the QUEEN ELIZABETH was out at sea. In addition to the normal painting, scaling, underwater inspection, removal of propellers, drawing of tailshafts and so forth; 157 tourist-class cabins were given air-conditioning and provision was also made to carry more fuel. Only a little fuel remained after the transatlantic crossing, but a barge moved alongside to take it off as necessary. Scrapping seemed to provide the obvious, almost humane, answer to dealing with the problem of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Following the First World War, Germany was building up her passenger fleet from 'scratch' in an era of new developments. The Americans demanded that the QUEEN ELIZABETH be brought up to the new standards of fire protection which would have to include the fitting of additional fire sprinklers and the boxing-in of stairways that could otherwise act as deadly draught tunnels in the event of fire. Marr recommended that Seawise University be towed to the New Territories, but Tung and his crew were convinced that they could sail the ship there using just the aft engines and boilers. On 8th November the QUEEN ELIZABETH sailed on a 'Farewell Cruise' to Las Palmas and Gibraltar, and was back at Southampton on 15th November. The new liner had a weight on the slipway of 39,400 tons. It was not until 1926 that Cunard began thinking about the replacements for the express steamers. This is, indeed, the very heart of a shipping city, where, standing in the windows of that building, one can see the ships of all nations passing by in procession at tide-time, almost as mundanely as the trams whose terminus is at the water's edge. There were only five dry docks in the world which could accommodate the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived at Singapore three weeks after leaving New York for a seven-week conversion into a troopship with accommodation for 5,000 troops. Like a Greek tragedy the tale of woe gathered force. These are not two separate documents but one and the same thing; you may see them referred to simply as crew lists, or sometimes simply as agreements. The Company's liners carried 207,563 passengers or 23.95% of the combined total of passengers carried by all transatlantic shipping lines in 1960. After several crossings with Joey on board, the crew began to grumble that the weather seemed to have taken a turn for the worse. to the Ambrose Channel Light Vessel off New York at 27.91 knots. WebNew York State, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1917-1967 to 1962 for NYC (fee-based - at Ancestry) Includes passenger and crew arrival lists (and some departure lists) for vessels that were filed at various ports (such as Binghamton, Buffalo, NYC, Niagara Falls, Oswego, Rochester, Syracuse, and other ports) in the state of New York. This was designed so that the Government would assume responsibility of the risk of the ship's insurance value over and above the amount which the market could absorb. Information on the holdings of The National Archives are decribed in The National Archives' Merchant Seamen: Agreements and Crew Lists after 1861. [23] On 29 July 1959, she was in a collision with the American freighter American Hunter in foggy conditions in New York Harbor and was holed above the waterline.[24]. The year 1960 proved to be another good one for Cunard. CPO. With Queen Mary she provided weekly luxury liner service between Southampton in the United Kingdom and New York City in the United States, via Cherbourg in France. The QUEEN ELIZABETH encountered a severe storm on 18th October, the day on which Commodore Bisset had arranged a memorial service for Sir Percy Bates. [14] The ship was then sent for fitting out. Cunard hoped that its continuing involvement with the QUEEN ELIZABETH would reap worthwhile benefits in the years to come. Two masts and two funnels. L.Sea. It is estimated that around 4050% of the wreck was still on the seabed. The original intention was to moor the QUEEN ELIZABETH off Hog island in the Delaware River. The liner is equipped with two sets of stabilizers. The work would include the installation of full air conditioning, the fitting of private showers and toilets in much of the cabin class and tourist class accommodation, and the creation of a lido at the after end of the promenade deck, incorporating an outdoor heated swimming pool. It was reasoned, therefore, that if the passage time could be reduced to five days, it would be possible for two ships on a fortnightly service to do the work of three. It was just over thirty years since she had launched the ship at Clydebank. 'The Times' in its special Cunard - White Star Supplement of 27th September 1938 (the date of the Elizabeth's launch) said that: 'no practicable installation of this type [gyro stabilisers] could possibly be of the slightest use in vessels the size of the QUEEN MARY and QUEEN ELIZABETH to date the safest and easiest crossings are secured by sheer size, coupled with good form design, bilge keels of practicable dimensions and careful experienced seamanship. While a troupe of invading men from "Grand Fenwick", a fictional European micro-nation, cross the Atlantic to 'war' with the United States, they meet and pass the far larger Queen Elizabeth, and learn that the port of New York is closed due to an air raid drill. Shuttle' the two Queens were never in the same port at the same time, and the schedules avoided either ship lying at anchor at Gourock during the period of full moon. 09:00 to 17:00. Engines were checked and boilers tested, but only six of the twelve boilers were considered functional for the long passage. WebThe RMS Queen Elizabeth was an ocean liner operated by Cunard Line. Be that as it may, John Thorneycroft's staff at Southampton were set a formidable task with the QUEEN ELIZABETH's overhaul in January 1953. [38][39], The wreck also featured in a flashback sequence in an episode of American Dragon: Jake Long. The RMS Queen Elizabeth was an ocean liner operated by Cunard Line. During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. The Cunard Board had decided, therefore, in view of the changing pattern of the passenger business, much of which could be attributed to political anxiety, that it would be foolish at this juncture to embark on a new capital ship. In the centre, on the south side of Pier 90, is the QUEEN MARY, and across. Harland & Wolff found itself in a peculiar situation. If oil were adopted as the best type of fuel, Cunard would always have to bear in mind the possibility of oil shortages, and back in 1926 it had been seriously suggested that the new ships might be generally arranged so that in the case of such an emergency arising it would be possible to convert them to coal burning. By six o'clock the next morning, thirteen tugs had arrived from Southampton, Portsmouth Dockyard and Poole. Her carrying capacity was over 15,000 troops and over 900 crew. Both Queen Elizabeth and Churchill sent messages of congratulation to Captain Townley. A minimal crew of four hundred were assigned for the trip; most were transferred from Aquitania and told that this would be a short coastal voyage to Southampton. A signal for assistance was sent and - within the hour - the company, port and salvage officials were on board and in conference with Captain Ford. dry dock at Southampton for annual overhaul. Public interest in the ELIZABETH quickly waned and by June 1969 the liner was again up for sale. The first-class main lounge on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The climate of southern Florida was much harder on Queen Elizabeth than the climate of southern California was on Queen Mary. Two stops would be required for refuelling and watering. After 1861 only a sample of crew lists and agreements and log books are held at The National Archives. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was the culmination of Sir Percy Bates' own initiative; the fulfilment of a long-cherished dream held by many shipowners; that a weekly trans-Atlantic ferry service should be maintained by two ships rather than by three, or even four (sometimes mismatched) vessels that had previously - and expensively - been required. The Official Number was allocated on registration, retained for the life of the ship, and was not reused. The size of the two proposed superliners was not dictated in any way by a desire on the part of Cunard to have 'Big Ships' for their own sake. The distance to be covered in a year would be about 145,000 nautical miles. The dock could be emptied of its 180,000 tons of water in four hours. The Directors were faced with the almost unbelievable fact that the gross revenue of the Company for the year was calculated to be nearly 2.5 million down on 1930. The whole affair turned into a spectacular fiasco as the 'Mary' was undercrewed and had to cross the equator twice without the benefit of air-conditioning. A fortnight later, on 21st March 1940, the QUEEN MARY slipped quietly away: her work as a troop transport was about to begin. Additional competition in the form of the new UNITED STATES would also be a factor from mid 1952. After the formal speeches had been completed there was a pause as high tide and slack water were awaited. Rodaway Thomas. When considering the comfort of those on board, Cunard had decided against the installation of stabilisers. We hold just 10% of the surviving records for this period. On the orders of the neutral American government (in accordance with the Geneva Convention), only maintenance or construction work of a non-beligerent nature could be carried out on the liners moored along the New York waterfront. All Digitized Passenger Lists For the RMS Queen Elizabeth Available at the GG Archives. The list was kept on board and then sent to the Register Office of Merchant Seamen, the central administration office of the Merchant Navy, on the ships return to Britain. A thirty-seven day cruise from New York to the Mediterranean sailed on 21st February 1967 and was plagued by bad weather and many ports had to be omitted from the itinerary. Top to bottom: the MAURETANIA, the NORMANDIE, the QUEEN MARY. The tender ROMSEY which had brought the officials out to the stricken ship made a solo attempt at pulling the liner off the mud, but the towline parted under the unequal strain. As well as state-of-the-art weaponry and communications systems, HMS Queen Elizabeth boasts five gyms, a chapel and a medical centre. They are (left to right). The Americans wanted the work to be completed and then for the, The QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH met for the last time when they were both at sea. The first was New Zealand and the second was Nuku Hiva in the Marquesas Group of islands. In January 1931 agreement was reached with the New York Port Authority for a thousand-foot long pier at a rent of 48,000 a year. By using this site, you accept the use of cookies on your device. with the man above him practically resting on top of him. Seesection 7.2. The QUEEN ELIZABETH alongside the Gare Maritime at Cherbourg, The Duke and Duchess of Windsor were regular. Queen Elizabeth and King George VI are received on board, the QUEEN ELIZABETH by Captain Ford on 28th July 1948, King George VI, Queen Elizabeth and Captain Ford with senior, officers on the starboard bridge wing of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Barry Claud Barrington. finally arrives at Hong Kong on 15th July 1971. A painting by Captain Stephen J Card of the two 'Queens' passing in, mid-Atlantic. The QUEEN ELIZABETH departing from the river of her birth, and her. This limited the turn-round at both Southampton and New York to just 36 hours which by current standards sounds very leisurely indeed! From 1845 onwards the following lists were being used: Schedules C, D and A, B, G. This left only Singapore and the QUEEN ELIZABETH would have to make two stops to take on fuel and water on her voyage from New York. When Cunard requested that the Americans send over an inspector to approve the improvement work as it progressed, the authorities declined. being transported (not for $100) in the QUEEN ELIZABETH who, in a burst of enthusiasm, said to one of the officers: "Say, why can't you British build a ship like this?" WebQueen Elizabeth docked at Southampton in 1967. Years indicate year of entry into Cunard service. There was a great rumpus and the yacht owner was traced. A form known as a Schedule C was completed by the master of every Foreign Going Ship, filed within 48 hours of the ships return to a UK port. The QUEEN MARY still holds the Blue Riband with her 1938 eastbound crossing at 31.69 knots, and that is quite good enough. He said that it had become a source of irritation to him and his colleagues on the board. The Elizabeth carried 5,600 Australian troops to bolster the defences of Egypt against the enemy's incursions into North Africa. Sums amounting to $100 million were freely bandied about in the coumns of newspapers as the cost of carrying G.I.s to and from the theatres of war. When he asked for questions, one boy shot up his arm and asked: In November 1942, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was involved in an incident that still remains the subject of much speculation. For instance, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was out of service from 21st July to 30th July 1952 and this included six days in the King George V dry dock. shipyard, bound for the Tail of the Bank off Greenock. Muster rolls for this period did not usually record the names of the whole crew but did provide: However, some lists, appearing randomly during this period, also show: There would have been calculation tables but none of these are thought to survive. Over the next few months Mr C.Y. The salvage attempt at the first suitable high tide failed and the Elizabeth had to wait until 17th April when at 8.40pm she was finally pulled off the mud. Half her crew was paid off and went on leave, whilst around 400 remained with the ship for maintenance, fire watch and to sail the ship on the coastwise voyage to the Clyde. [21], The ship ran aground on a sandbank off Southampton on 14 April 1947, and was re-floated the following day. ", The QUEEN ELIZABETH making almost 30 knots on her sea trials. The QUEEN ELIZABETH's bow, unlike that of the Mary, was heavily raked. The 1971 film version starring Connery used the P&O liner SSCanberra for the sequence. Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. RMS Queen Elizabeth, World's Largest Liner. Cunard White Star Tourist Class, January 1949. In the early morning fog of 28th November 1968, the QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton for the last time. On the return southbound voyages the ships carried Allied wounded, internees or enemy prisoners-of-war, stopping off at Ceylon. The QUEEN ELIZABETH had also been fitted with four miles of rubber coated copper cable would around her enormous hull. GGA Image ID # 1d3776ba5f. For example, for a ship with the number 25820, search using 258* (include the asterisk) as your keyword. They demanded 50 per man danger money-cum-bonus, but were given 30 plus 5 per month extra pay. WebQueen Elizabeth docked at Southampton in 1967. and acceptance trials over the Arran Mile, in the Firth of Clyde. The NORMANDIE - the QUEEN MARY's arch rival on the North Atlantic. ", The promenade deck main square on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The ELIZABETH just before she sailed from Port Everglades. He had no experience of handling ships as large as the 'Queens' and off Calshot at the entrance to Southampton Water the QUEEN ELIZABETH ran aground. Rodaway Thomas. I have agreed in principle." The UNITED STATES took the 'Blue Riband' on her maiden voyage. The object of fitting the coil (one of the first to be so fitted) was hopefully to render the ship immune from magnetic mines by neutralising the ship's magnetic field. The salvage attempt at the first suitable high tide failed and the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH never enjoyed the same affection that the Cunard men held for the QUEEN MARY, being described as the 'colder' of the two ships. These essentially distinguished between ships sailing in waters around Britain (home) and those sailing further afield (foreign). The new ship weighed her bower anchor half an hour later and with a mean draught of 37 feet 9 inches slipped through the anti-submarine boom that stretched across the Clyde between the Gantock Rocks and the Cloch Lighthouse at 8.15am. Queen Elizabeth leaving New York during her last voyage, 1968. The vessel was sold to Queen Ltd of Port Everglades on 19 July 1969. The fewer crossings were due to the Elizabeth's extended overhaul during which stabilisers were fitted, and if she had made her usual 44 crossings then the results might have been very different. A major problem to be settled concerned the insurance of the liner while she was being built, together with the future full sea risks when she was operational. The normal insurance market would not be able to provide cover for anything like the whole cost. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at the anchorage at the Tail of the Bank. Following his retirement, Sir James was in great demand as a lecturer and one day was telling some schoolchildren of the days when 2,000 lbs of bacon and 32,000 eggs were cooked for breakfast every day. It was controlled simply by the necessity to provide sufficient passenger accommodation and propulsion to operate a two-ship weekly express service across the North Atlantic. The ships would have to run without repairs for eleven months of the year. A model of the ocean liner Queen Elizabeth has sat serenely for the last 15 years, gliding along on its pedestal in a PEM gallery. During a conference on board, the U.S. military was told how many men had been transported on each Sydney - Suez voyage. To locate crew lists for these years you will need to know the name of the ship on which an individual seaman sailed. The stability of the QUEEN MARY has proved ample at all times to make the ship as safe and comfortable as it is possible for any vessel to be when passing through an Atlantic storm.' Sometimes a log book, with details of the ships voyages (see section 7), was filed along with the agreements and crew lists. The safety of the troops during these solo high-speed dashes across the Atlantic was not considered to be paramount in the minds of those at the top. She also has the distinction of being the largest-ever riveted ship by gross tonnage. Because of a strike by New York tugboat men there was a possibility that the QUEEN ELIZABETH would be diverted to Halifax. The fins were retractable into the hull to save fuel in smooth seas and for docking. Winter cruises from New York to the West Indies were poorly patronised and one was cancelled and replaced with an unscheduled Atlantic crossing. on her departure from the Clyde on 12th March 1966. [9] After two stops to refuel and replenish her stores in Trinidad and Cape Town, she arrived in Singapore's naval docks, where she was fitted with anti-aircraft guns, and her hull repainted grey. Half-yearly crew lists for ships on home voyages (Schedule D) The certificate would then be given back to the seaman which is why they can be found in the personal collections of an individual or their family. Boat drill was carried out on departure from New York. Bdmn. Cherbourg was chosen as the French port for the new ships as it had deeper water and a larger harbour than Le Havre. On 22nd August 1939 it was announced that the maiden voyage of the QUEEN ELIZABETH was scheduled to leave Southampton on 24th April 1940. The ELIZABETH (the prefix 'Queen' was dropped at Cunard's request) was opened to the public on 14th February 1969. Her funnels are 70 feet high from deck level. WebThe Queen Elizabeth is the newest addition to the Cunard Line and made its debut voyage in October 2010. Their high speeds allowed them to outrun hazards, principally German U-boats, usually allowing them to travel without a convoy. L.Sea. There are a small number of log books in BT 98 and BT 99. INS forms used to record information about passengers, crew members, and aliens: Form 680 or I-480, List or Manifest of Aliens Employed on the Vessel as Members of the Crew (used in 1945) Form I-481, List or Manifest of all Persons Employed on a Great Lakes Vessel (used in 1945) This was the catalyst, but not the only cause, of the withdrawal of the two 'Queens'. A temporary electrical fault had developed with the Elizabeth's whistle control gear and she left Southampton in a silence that only added to the almost furtive feeling of the departure. As 1939 wore on, men and materials were taken away from the liner as Admiralty work took priority, and the pace of work on board slowed down. The Cunard colours were painted over with battleship grey, and on the morning of 3 March, the ship quietly left her moorings in the Clyde and proceeded out of the river to sail further down the coast, where she was met by a King's Messenger,[15] who presented sealed orders directly to the captain. This enabled a third anchor, the bower, to be carried allowing the anchr to fall well clear of the stem. Alternatively, browseBT 98/140-563to view all the ports covered for this period and the alphabetical ranges of ships for each port. The new centrally-placed companionway is in place in this photo and there's a repaint where the ladders once were. Further details of available sources are described in: In 1747, following an Act of Parliament, a fund for the relief of disabled seamen was set up, using money taken from seamens wages. Not only that, but the company headquarters was transferred from Liverpool to Southampton. To find a ships official number go to theCrew List Index Project(CLIP) website, which has information about merchant ships from 1855 to 1913, or theMiramar Ship Indexwebsite (subscription required) which lists some categories of merchant and naval ships. As required by law, Commodore Bisset obligingly raised the Cunarder's recognition flags 'G B S S'. In the event 600 tubes had to be changed and approval obtained from classification societies. The view ahead on a sunny day in the North Atlantic. After anchoring off Aruba the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY drifted, dragging her anchor, out to deep water. The two ships' real potential had yet to be appreciated. WebScenes on the main podium prior the launching, the two Princesses are notable, especially Princess Elizabeth , our future Queen! Tonnage: 83,673. During the year there were 24 fewer westbound sailings and 22 fewer eastbound sailings than in 1960. She was nonetheless a popular ship. With potentially upward of 500 crew requiring to scramble up from their quarters below, the sheer climb would have presented quite a hazard, particularly in bad weather and at a time of emergency. The size of the two proposed superliners was not dictated in any way by a desire on the part of Cunard to have 'Big Ships' for their own sake. The QUEEN ELIZABETH entering the King George V Dry Dock. They hold 70% of the surviving crew lists and agreements for this period. In January 1957 the Cunard Line announced that it had carried 275,500 passengers across the Atlantic in 1956, an increase of 16,500 over its 1955 carryings. She remained there until 11th March 1966 undergoing the 1.75 million refit and returned to Southampton with about 400 workmen on board who were completing the modernisation of cabins. To administer this fund, masters or owners of merchant ships had to keep a muster book, also known as a muster roll, which was filed at the port of arrival with the Seamens Fund Receivers. I joined the Cunard Line in March 1962 as an Assistant Purser and sailed on the QUEEN ELIZABETH throughout that year, before transferring to the Liverpool-based CARINTHIA in November, where I remained as Crew Purser for the next five years. Queen Elizabeth's 'cherished wish' that she might someday sail in the liner was fulfilled in October 1954 when, by now Queen Mother, she embarked at the beginning of a tour to the United States and Canada. [16] As passenger numbers declined, the liners became uneconomic to operate in the face of rising fuel and labour costs. 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