Such initiatives and efforts need not be tiresome, but the sacrifice that goes into being thoughtful and present has a cost, be it in personal time or convenience. Scranton, PA The founding document of the FSSP contains lies and heresy. I am glad to be able to stay on course with what Louie provides here. Lets revisit what Voris (and Fr. . Think of it as pulling back the curtain on the little man of OZ (Voris). Montreal, QC marian, A distinction must be made when speaking about the FSSP. Saskatoon, SK Youre coming out of your usual comfort zone. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. Hope it may help someone to understand the complexity of it all. There is also, to borrow Voris words, an objective case of jurisdiction, and the legal/subjective case of jurisdiction. Gerard Saguto, FSSP. I remember every word and it is my expectation that Father Wolfe will find someone else to host all the sermons he has been preaching but have not been posted publicly since the sad split with Audio Sancto. Cardinal Raymond Burke, Bp. As you say, hopefully someday he will be humble enough to admit his error. INTROIT "Gaudeamus" Score Sung without organ accompaniment by men only Conductor: Jeff Ostrowski To access the rehearsal files, go HEREand scroll down to 31 May. Youre free to believe so if youd like, but I dont. The best way is to always talk about principles not personalities. Lincoln, NE Over the course of the last three days, Michael Voris has put his unholy obsession with the SSPX on display via some 30 minutes of video (with the promise of more to come) featuring over four thousand words a portion of which was allegedly plagiarized (but more on that in a moment. If left unchecked, we find ourselves in a rut where it seems we are just spinning the wheels; meaning about things that should be important gets confused, or even lost, and a frustration with life begins to set in. I too have been heartbroken by M Voris recent rants against the SSPX and have diverted my financial support to Harvesting the Fruit. The very word sedevacantist is almost considered profanity. The fact that he has since set up an FSSP parish doesnt really fully redress that injustice, to my mind. Dear grandfather of. You have entered an incorrect email address! Having said that, it is a bit disappointing having come to the knowledge that full disclosure on this site has given, to know that Fr. I am also friends with a few current and one former FSSP priest. Dear piokolbe and/or radtrad, But they are for the most part Catholic. As , albeit indirectly, pointed out in a discussion with my2cents below, trads have 2 things in common: they love the so called latin mass & they revile sedevacantists. Visit https://sacredliturgyconference.org/ for information about the next conference and how to register. FSSP Events Louie does a fine job of using his layman status in the correct way, although he steps over the line on occasion. Cardinal Burke has been very clear: If Pope Francis puts in place a program allowing the divorced and remarried to receive Holy Communion apart from a true remedy (e.g., an annulment) he will not follow; rather, he said he will maintain the true faith. Fr. That said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic. This is the document that created the FSSP. Kindly stop presuming everyone who reads this blog or watches CMTV has a developed awareness of the dismal state of affairs in the Church as you claim to have. He knows very well (as he and I had discussed in some detail on more than one occasion) that the SSPX came about as a very direct response to the errors of the Second Vatican Council and the deplorable theology of the Novus Ordo Missae. Fort Wayne, IN Many excellent leaders in the Church, good holy men and women, recognize the exact same problems, but they havent left. Catholics are watching and waiting. I literally admire your use of sarcasm & I must admit, its well executed & actually appreciated. NEWSPAPERS. Omaha, NE Lexington, KY the requirement that adults not be alone with minors).. Wolfe is in some way, if not directly, but indirectly involved in what we are seeing play out. Nevertheless, his blog, writing style, and persona seemed to be totally different to me from that day forward. Baptism and Confirmation have left an indelible mark on our souls that can never be erased, courtesy of the Holy Ghost, from which Christ identifies us as citizens of His Kingdom and belonging to Him. German-speaking Chaplain Father Gerald Gesch. I found it on the New Liturgical Movement website. With Advent upon us, the evident threats posed from the secular world compel us all to make concerted efforts to keep Jesus as the reason for the season.. It was simply too painful for many lay people to take. So let me go on record here by saying that I will gladly sit with Michael Voris on a live program to discuss specific reasons why no Catholic should ever be forced to sign off on Vatican II as an integral part of tradition.. And weather.) His first Mass in Seattle will be on Sunday, October 5th and it will be a sung Mass. Let Voris live in his blissful world. Placed on leave in 11/18 after a man reported to the diocese 9/26 that Bouchard sexually abused him as a boy, ages 9-11. Terry Carroll, like his pastor, did too, and that personal vendetta against the Society (and unwillingness to go full bore after the dangers associated with the Council, the new Mass, and the actions of the pope) has since been adopted by Michael Voris as well. And we must distinguish between the two. Questions: Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. Denton, NE (Seminary) This is true. The time and place has to be taken into consideration as well. Brookville, IN Dear Louie, Gemma Bradac is an All Saints parishioner located in Hudson, WI, willing to travel up to 30 minutes for a family. Sarasota, FL Nada. Our Holy Faith often falls victim to being taken for granted. Clarkdale, AZ It is also with the Bishops who do the ordinations for the FSSP. Fr. This is what michael voris used to say It can happen from a negative event; that is, when someone or something becomes threatened in such a way that forces us to look at it with the attention it deserves. The benefit and usefulness of suffering is evident in such instances, at least in hindsight. Wolfe was not the pastor at Mater Dei, but rather the Parochial Vicar and Assistant Pastor; a man who Mr. Carroll clearly idolized. The error can be found in document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. Chesapeake, VA There is a schismatic attitude in the fact of consecrating bishops without pontifical mandate. Fulton Sheen coins Him, living in the Church that seeks to unite her members and remain the constant inspiration for our holiness and mutual forgiveness. Objectively, absolutely nothing will change whatsoever, which brings me back to Fr. And to do it using the lame excuse that one is trying to speak the truth and warn others is to be blind to ones true motives. Are they abandoning it if they fail to adopt the same posture as the SSPX? The heartfelt acknowledgment of potential loss is a sure-fire way of checking contempt and correcting things. http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1973-new-from-remnant-tv-a-ceasefire-the-fssp-vs-the-sspx To accuse the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peters members of be responsible for the break-up of marriages is scurrilous and reprehensible. Baltimore, MD Voris goes into yet another rant about the SSPX being in schism that is so lacking in plausibility that even Karl Keating took to his own blog to criticize it! (Or he was last time I was around there, at any rate. In any case, the plagiarized text (as alleged in the link above) is taken from a sermon given by Fr. 2nd group those that attend TLM this can range from someone who may attend a weekday TLM or sunday TLM but who still likes to be involved with their local parish and who sees no problem with new mass. Look more closely into the factions and personalities in and around Irving that split up Fisher Moore College around 2012-14, and you just may find your answers as to whose motives now motivate whom. Wolfe. For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. Do you have any insight on this? Take any good news with a grain of salt when it comes from modernists. dear rich, Please keep all those involved in this situation in your prayers.. Thank you for this honest report, Mr. Verrecchio. They do not understand epikeia at all it seems to me. Calgary, AB North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA Philadelphia, PA His Vortexellency has no authority to make this subjective determination as to willful intent. This comes about in various ways. Im also reminded of Dr.Taylor Marshalls involvement of Fisher More College and am still in the dark as to many of the details. God bless you. what does matter , though, is if they adhere to the teachings of the Church. Is there no one out there who can challenge poikolby and rich, and others here who detract from the reputations of these men, and from the reputation of the FSSP but me? What I am not getting into is the subjective faith and morals of the Priests of the FSSP and the laymen who attend their parishes. We all have blind spots about ourselves and situations we may be in, and the realization of such things can be quite the exercise in humility. I am only asking this question in the hope that you can shed some light on this kind of behavior. Voris, by contrast, runs every last word through a filter; avoiding anything that might conflict with more personal concerns; the likes of which well address a little later. We do need to know who we can trust and who we cannot. Now that Father Wolfes role has been made public with respect to both CM and Fisher More, it would be a good time to reread the story of the collapse of Fisher More College with all that in mind, and be sure to fill in what has been said here in between the lines:, especially in the section on Relations with the FSSP: Richard M In all charity and respect to you, I want you to know that I did look at your video, but have noted that errors have been found with the modern-day Lazarus story. Indeed, contrary to what some may hear about us, we sedevacantists in reality live amidst other Catholics in peace & gracious commaraderie. On the local level, a dust up ensued between the SSPX and the FSSP, or more appropriately, between individual persons associated with each as, apparently, a priest of the Society had advised people to avoid the FSSP and it got back to Fr. As for the suggestion that the SSPX simply left the Church by holding fast to the true faith, even as her aforementioned weak and corrupt leaders abandoned it, is idiotic even for him. With only a vague sense of her origins and history, and an anemic experience with the institutional aspect of the Church, many Catholics indeed tend to view the Church as a sum of commands and rules, imposing a morality that they find outdated or even impossible. They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. Qubec, QC While it had varied levels of success, it was an interesting approach, because this reality of the Catholic Church as a home often escapes Catholics when they consider what the Church actually is. sedevacantists dont believe the chair of peter is vacant theres no different/various groups within the sedevacantist movement. I still hadnt found out who Fr. The Missive. In any case, only an idiot (willing or otherwise) would equate every request that comes forth from the lips of a pope with the will of the Father. I give you credit. Will the FSSP tell Voris PUBLICLY that he does not have permission to use FSSP sermons in his attacks on other Catholics in print or in audio and that his view that the SSPX is in schism is not the OFFICIAL position of the FSSP? The manner in which certain of the staff at ChurchMilitant.com, the FM College Administration and local FSSP clergy conducted themselves during the disgracing of the school suggests to me that the whole affair informed, hardened or turned the sympathies now on display at CM.com. the point central to the sedevacantist position -that being the Roman Catholic Religion. So whats the opposite of human respect, piety? Meaning the official constitutions and public documents between Rome & the FSSP. I remember that you detested this video and Michael Matts opinion here because I recall that you commented on it when it first came out. The FSSP accepts the new mass and Vatican II. Sunday Masses will . This means that love is the basis of being a member of the Church, as it is supposed to be the basis of being a member of a home. It helps to know who is on our team though, doesnt it? Nor are they interested in hearing the kind of drivel spewed out by piokolby, rich and others. Home Base - Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter Home Base by Fr. Lots of us jump in to visit Mr.V., in the midst of raising broods of children & grandchildren, juggling this and that, including old age & a long time witnessing the collapse since before 1963 for example. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. The SSPX doesnt tell everyone they meet to avoid the FSSP. It cannot be said in correct, exact, and precise terms that there is a schism. If we know of loved ones who have wandered, ask the same for them, that they begin to sense the obvious need for the Church and the Sacraments, particularly Holy Communion and confession. You really need a better source, maybe someone who doesnt provide you with misinformation in order to slander a good and faithful priest. I feel sorry for Michael Voris. We are truly living in a period of disorientation. Stay away. Sacramento, CA I do think it possible to simultaneously hold that Bishop Olsons action was in certain ways unjust to the staff and students at Fisher More while also being critical of the administrative leadership of President King. Heres the truth: The SSPX refuses to sign a statement saying the Vatican II is an integral part of the tradition of the Church. It is this to which they refuse to submit, not the legitimate authority of the pope. This detraction and extreme lack of charity to say nothing about factual errors has got to be challenged. Servant of Our Lady, However, sadly, the impression is often given that this is not the case. That Heresy being Modernism itself. I must admit, I am not a typical traditionalist but have read my way through hours of debate over the defense of tradition and have come across many resources, such as this forum, that have given me a formation that I wouldnt have guessed having even just 5 years ago while still assuming that I am even to this day light years away. Had Fisher More College been allowed to stand or fall on its own management and merits (rather than pushed by actors within and out) we might have seen a the start of a formal, independent, institutionalized meeting ground between the SSPX and sundry other traditionally inclined priests and priestly orders. hi, Servant of Our Lady, Dear Alarico, Voris then goes on to quote (without attribution) Fr. I wouldnt be half surprised if he granted faculties to the Dali Lamma. 4. The archdioceses Office of Ministerial Standards brought the information related to Father Saguto to law enforcement, and law enforcement has advised us that they are not initiating a criminal investigation, the archbishop said. I think it is excellent. The Society is not in an irregular canonical status that is a made-up term by SSPX supporters. Then I realized This entire tirade is full of calumny and detraction about the FSSP and false accusations about Fr. There is, in any event, no SSPX or sedevacantist chapel within easy driving distance of me even if I wanted to go. http://youtu.be/S_vwwajyASI. This is, however, a multi-edged sword. It was also taken in response to related concerns that Father Saguto had failed to observe the safe environment protocols of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for interaction with minors (e.g. Your rash judgement I hope is based on ignorance and not malice. So if, in responding to you here, anything comes off that way- know its not intentional. Therefore, the Church cannot be considered as something that stands between me and Christ, as so often is alleged. Search. Well, Im not basing what I say on Marshall I have good friends who were there, too, on staff (though their opinions and mine do not perfectly coincide on this affair, I should add). Catholics are watching and waiting. A Person stands behind the doctrine and morals. This definition of Tradition is what the FSSP publicly holds as a condition of being received into new church. This is rich: Voris mentioning those who dont really know very much at all about the SSPX as he gets even the most basic facts completely wrong. Are they abandoning it if they fail to adopt the same posture as the SSPX? I do not understand the connection and would like to understand. In reality, it is far more likely the case that it was used with permission, tacit or otherwise, thanks perhaps to Terry Carroll and his Mater Dei connection. Especially in light of the context in which hes stepping up his attack with the Pope extending a remarkable olive branch to Econe and disastrous developments in annulment law and the ominous maneuverings underway for the Synod Against the Family.. That is something to be most thankful for. Thank you Barbara! I am not a follower of the Dimonds, may God forbid. Fr. There is no doctrine, no moral apart from Him who declares Himself to the be the Truth. *** All in mortal sin? This is part of a much longer and laborious dissertation on obedience that has all the markings of an Epistle from Terry Carroll to Ferndale. This meant telling them to avoid the New Mass altogether and then he was horrified by the fruits of ecumenism. ), Even though Im not real keen on the idea of expending a great deal of energy parsing the criticisms of a man who is so clearly motivated by an agenda that has nothing whatsoever to do with seeking and telling the truth. Lets be clear these men (again, including the pope) are not synonymous with the Church; rather, they are, objectively speaking, laboring for her destruction. Even Pope St. Pius X refrained from making that kind of judgment against the modernists, even as he condemned them with great force in Pascendi. We covered this recently enough, so I wont go into more detail here. every single SSPX priest and bishop is committing a mortal sin when he offers Mass. Wolfe has apparently been rather willing to speak about Vatican II in strongly condemnatory terms, and he also openly criticized Pope Francis in various sermons, although typically on weekdays when they are not recorded. Quincy, IL As such, he looked upon the SSPX and its purpose for existing with, if not with support, a degree of understanding that is now nonexistent. It ended up punishing students and staff for what were, allegedly, the failings of the administration. GOD did it 2. No, Cardinal Castrillon de Hoyos said as much with respect to the SSPX when he said: We are not confronted with a heresy. Its as if Michael is under some kind of self-imposed gag order that prevents him from speaking on the problems with the Council and the New Mass; issues he used to address with great passion just a few short years ago. ***All Catholics are called to charity toward neighbor. (1) This is the price for full communion, There is no such thing as partial communion. Montreal, QC So does the Church. Michael Voris has a bee in his bonnet and he has boxed himself into lambasting a group that just goes about its business without giving him any attention at all. When Pope John Paul II had the Assisi meeting Archbishop Lefebvre pleaded with the good Cardinals like Siri and Oddi to make a public protest to defend the honor of the Church. For this reason Catholics must be wary of them. Vennari & I agree on (almost) nothing, obviouslybut I see that hes not gotten involved in this most recent Voris-shtick. Catholic families (WITH CHILDREN) have broken up because the FSSP Priest told Catholics they were not licitly married because they were married by a SSPX Priest. Dear de Maria, Fort Myers, FL Gruner was yet, so I looked past it in ignorance. More like battle weary at times while being good soldiers of Christ. Sacramento, CA Priestly Fraternity of St, Peter (FSSP) poses a whole slew of ecclesiological, doctrinal and moral problems. I suggest you show more charity to Catholics. Wigratzbad Seminary Many faithful Catholics couldnt take it anymore, so to speak, and simply left. Voris has done much good and I used to enjoy him but now I actively avoid him. Very dear and close friends, who fought side by side with me and my family to defend the Catholic faith, have literally turned their backs on us and pretend they never even knew us. Saguto FSSP arrives in Seattle the week of October 1st and will begin offering Mass at St. Joseph Chapel (located in the Josephinum) until a more permanent location is found. I hope those responsible both cleric and lay alike are made to pay for what they did there. A cardinal such as Cardinal Burke should speak the truth no matter what the modernist destroyers want. Eric Flood, FSSP, who served in that position for the last . Things had got worse since 1970 and the SSPX Was trying to compromise its previous postion on the council with rome order to be accepted by rome. It does not matter whether folks think that those Dimond Bros. are fanatics or anything else they may think. That said, we disagree on the points you bring up. Im glad you agree that Fisher Mores story is so important. FSSP pastors are . 3rd group those that choose only to attend TLM except for funerals weddings etc. Under the standard of Christ? Problem sorted. First and foremost, however, one must be willing to take a good hard look at the conciliar texts and the new Mass and apply ones intellect as informed by faith. Father John Marcus Berg, F.S.S.P. Finding little support, the faith infused at Baptism is stifled and choked by the thorns of the world, and it becomes easy to drift away. Post Falls, ID The schismatic Orthodox bishops and priests are validly ordained too. The Society operates from the standpoint of speaking Catholic truth in the face of every attack regardless of the source. Lastly it is with Father Paul Nicholson, Father Nicholsons Bishop and opus dei. ********** Domus Generalis FSSP - Chemin du Schoenberg 8 - CH-1700 Fribourg (Suisse) . The real truth of the matter is that some of them are not doing or saying what piokolby wants them to do or say. Catholics are watching and waiting. 3:00pm Closing Talk - Fr. So, to your point upon which we disagree, issues matter not-only the Faith matters. Philip Wolfe, FSSP. It might seem like a small misfortune, but that Colleges demise illustrates in spades the traps awaiting any future independent and stridently Catholic apostolate that seeks to foster unity among the trad diaspora. (opposite to voris) I would imagine quite the opposite, im sure this approach has caused louie a great deal of problems as of late. Dear Adam 95, He took some time waiting to see the fruits of the Novus Ordo before he made firm judgements. This is beyond disgusting and a lack of charity. At least warn Catholics who cross our path. It includes those who, through no or >>limited<>>limited<<< fault of their own. Unfortunately, it is about to go the way of The DuMont Television Network, which was more entertaining. Detraction is a sin where one reveals the true and secret fault of another without a good reason. FORT WAYNE. Back in the day, Voris, out of genuine concern for souls, used to lambaste the new Mass as a danger to the faith. Their jurisdiction is supplied by cannon law because they beleive there is a state of emergency in the church because people are in danger of losing the catholic faith. Louie February 22, 2023 Blog Post No Comments. Ignorance is bliss. The rest would be for a forum. I was still reading his blog almost daily when it all transpired, and can remember it not sitting well with me after hearing his explanations. Please look more closely at this. than we do. Father Josef Bisig. Saskatoon, SK The FSSP does not have time to respond to every crackpot coming down the internet pike. His work is exclusive in design, liturgically correct and unequaled in beauty. One reason for our personal blind spots and missing the obvious can be a lack of courage to face ourselves. Father Gerard Saguto, District Superior, FSSP "The thought-filled articles of Latin Mass provide an opportunity for needed reflection to help the thoughtful Catholic navigate the gauntlet of our modern secular society." Monsignor Barreiro Getting information out of Poland was very difficult for a long time. The central issue & question to be asked is: Is that religion which is currently observed in Vatican overseen dioceses worldwide the Catholic religion? First of all everything said about Fr. Beloved husband of Marie (nee Corallo). That is why the status of the SSPX is, at this time, technically an internal matter. Once there is a formal declaration of schism, it changes the rules of engagement from an internal to an external matter. Dear de Maria, The bottom line, in my opinion, is he is merely a distraction from the real issues facing the Catholic world and the world in general. Athanasius Schneider, Bp. I love the Saint so much. If the Holy Ghost impressed them, that means He is always ready to stir up their consequences a renewed and invigored faith, courage to tackle the obstacles that challenge its practice, be it in our own soul or in the world, for the love of God and neighbor in the imitation of Christ. Thank you for your kind response which I believe to be as sincere as my question. The FSSP was founded on heresy and lies and it shows now all these years later. But how to do so when belief seems so uncertain or dark? LiveMass.Net El Paso, TX Likewise he used to criticize the Council for its abject failures. There are some whose position gives them the duty to point out faults. I believe Bishop Morlino just issued a public apology to the SSPX also. Edmund Campion dressed up as a jeweler to avoid arrest. This is at the 4 minute mark in the video. Tacoma, WA Yet, he sticks with it like glue. Do they disagree with Voris? Ad Orientem: Why is the Mass Celebrated Facing East? Ottawa, ON Calgary, AB But they didnt. I do not claim, presume or pretend to belong to an exclusive club. Fawning over Paul VI, Divine Mercy blather & countless other things. make use of all the sacraments in the (old rite) at places like the FFSP , ICKSP etc this is where it can become a little complicated while these places offer all sacraments in the (old rite) they are in what we hear voris and others saying full communion with/under rome meaning that they are under the jurisdiction of the local bishop and cant/dont attack issues like the second vatican council. Saguto? He wont say aloud it now for reasons that well discuss shortly. We laughed hard. Thomas Paprocki. UPDATE: Having just received a message from a friend on the ground, Im happy to clarify that Fr. Terra as hes still not quite 100% in his health. Clarkdale, AZ Saguto, FSSP is the District Superior for the North American District of the Fraternity of St. Peter, and gives retreats, conferences, and days of reflection across the country. In justice it should be known. Fr. IMHO what you point out is important. Ive recently come across many of his sermons online and found them to be quite useful. Since the FSSP publicly accepts Vatican II as a council when John Paul II created the FSSP with this document he said Vatican II teaches new points of doctrine it is clear the FSSP founders accepted this document and created the FSSP Catholics may not accept new doctrine yet this statement is in the FSSP founding document the Pope says: It answers a lot of questions I had in my mind. Thats Mr. V.s job. Youll note CMTV covered that school in an on-site special just as loyalties were pulling at its seams. I really appreciate the space provided here in regards to the excellent content being discussed. I do get it that your comment here was not meant to be an intensive treatise. DID I MISS THE PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM THE FSSP? I am an FSSP parishioner who travels a lot. Our Lord sees everything. The Eichman twins join their older brother as an FSSP priest, with a younger Eichman brother still training at the seminary. Good people do not go along w/heresy. But I realized, and it actually had nothing to do w/sedevacantism, that me and mine WERE Nancy Pelosi. It was taking the faith seriously that led me to become sedevacantist and it is taking the faith seriously, that my family is going to hell (literally) which led me to break contact with them (as Jesus Christ directs us to do see Matt 18). I know he is a good priest striving for holiness. Terry, for his part, quickly took on what my friend called his own jihad against the SSPX shortly thereafter. There can be room for disagreement but not when its Our Lord Himself speaking. 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